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Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Nov 2nd, 2005, 3:00pm

I've held this in long enough but I'll let it out

you guys seemt o like Insomniac but I BLAME THEM FOR SPYRO BEING IN THE HANDS OF VU THEY PROBIBLY COULD OF TAKEN STEPS TO KEEP SPYRO IN THEIR HANDS THEY COULD OF TAKEN STEPS TO FIGHT THE TRANSFER BUT THEY DIDNT and does that show Insomniac truely cares for Spyro IT DOESNT TO ME

I know I'll probibluy get roasted for this but I just had to vent this
Re: Insomniac
Post by Wildfire Tanoshi on Nov 2nd, 2005, 5:56pm

Again, I'm human. I can't blow fire.
Well, I hate to say it, but SD might have a point, they did say they ran out of ideas, that doesn't mean not to move on and give it up. They could've got innovative with Spyro, only after I think a few games, they gave up.

I hate to say this too, but VU did a good thing to Spyro, more cool characters and some that make you go "WTF"

Me and SD are being torched for this? *Ducks and Covers Head*
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Nov 2nd, 2005, 6:06pm

Uhhh *dons some firefighter gear and hands some to Jay* that'll make the incomming flames hurt less

but they should of ever gave up >_< VU for all it's flaws hasnt givin up heck VU made more Spyro games then Insomniac and with AH'sT they seem on the verge of making the perfect Spyro game ((infinate gems a plus)) something Insomniac never did ((they'll rather make a game about a Lombax and a Robot >_< Not dissin R&C cause I played Up your Arsonal and it is a good game))

What I'm sayin is VU is out there trying to make Spyro good They didnt drop it after three games like SOME companys ((personally I think that's roughly the same as them spitting int he face of every Spyro fan))

I'm gonna get roasted now more then ever huh?
Re: Insomniac
Post by RageMario on Nov 2nd, 2005, 7:57pm

on Nov 2nd, 2005, 6:06pm, SolidDragon wrote:
heck VU made more Spyro games then Insomniac


You need to keep in mind that Vivideni didn't develop any Spyro games at all, as they are a Publisher(they get the game on the market, do copyright crap,etc.). Insomniac also stated that they wanted to try something new(in this case Ratchet, and then eventually I-8) instead of another Spyro game I believe.

Also, I believe their contract with Universal(or Vivendi as they are known as now) to make Spyro games had expired as well.
Re: Insomniac
Post by Ruby Krystal on Nov 3rd, 2005, 03:35am

Insomniac only left Spyro to make an EVEN BETTER game series - RATCHET AND CLANK!

VU did an okay job, nothing special, they just don't have Insomniac's spark or humour...If VU did, then it would rule.
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Nov 3rd, 2005, 05:03am

I dont knwo the Brain Cell joke was great

like I said before and I'll say again VU is fast approching the greatness of the first 3 and I woudlnt be supprised within the next 2-3 games they get even better then Insomniac ever could

and as far as the R&C series their good I actually played and liked up your arsonal and thought the story was great ((and wandered why they didnt do somethin like that with Spyro)) but compared to AH'sT UYA ((Up your Arsonal)) wasnt as good

sure AH'sT had it's flaws but so did UYA ((like that last level right before fighting Nafarious >_< and the mega cheap enemies especally Scorpio))

So as it stands VU is actually ahead cause the last R&C I played had too many cheap enemies although the last R&C game was still good

and I'm glad I didnt get roasted....yet
Re: Insomniac
Post by TwilightTwinkles on Nov 3rd, 2005, 05:33am

No worries. If anyone is gonna roast you, it isn't gonna be me wink. I must say you have a bit of a point. Spyro's plight isn't entirely VU's fault. It isn't currently as cool as Insomniac but things could have gotten a lot worse. At least SOMEONE is still making Spyro games smiley. I don't hate either company, though. Guess both companies did/are doing what they must. I'll respect them both.

(PS: Could I borrow some of that anti-flaming stuff, SD? To all those I might have offended, I honestly didn't mean it. smiley)
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Nov 3rd, 2005, 05:50am

*gives you some of the anti flame gear* here ya go Twilight

Anyway I thionk the Plight is over

ETD was bad

The GBA title SPyro Orange was good

AH'sT Kicks butt

I think VU's on the rebound

hey maybe they learned from their mistakes and are now going to make extremely great Spyro games
Re: Insomniac
Post by Ruby Krystal on Nov 3rd, 2005, 06:25am

ETD: okay.
GBA series: Not so good.
AHT: Not up to Insomniac's standards.

*snarls*
RATCHET AND CLANK IS NOT CHEAP!! THERE ARE TERRIBLE GAMES OUT THERE, AND UYA JUST KICKS ASS!!!! *ahem* Sorry about that. ^^; I just hate it when people flame my favourite games.

But Insomniac CREATED Spyro and gave it the best homour it's ever had. (AHT's humour was okay, something you'd only laugh at the first time you hear it.)
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Nov 3rd, 2005, 5:31pm

When I said UYA was cheap I ment a few of the battles and enemies were ((Nafarious [both holo vid and final battle] Scorpio ((the flame attack was extra cheap)), and a few of the peons that tryed to snipe ya))

AHT does show one thing my prediction

Quote me if you wish

WITHIN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 GAMES VU WILL SURPASS INSOMNIAC AS FAR AS GAME QUALITY IN THE SPYRO SERIES
Re: Insomniac
Post by Dark Faun on Nov 4th, 2005, 11:24am

*ahem* Within the next two or three games, you won't be able to recognise Spyro. He started as a dragon with a few human features (he could talk), while he's basically some hero with karate skills, but the only relation with a dragon is his looks. Well, not really, as he's a HUMAN dragon now. Not an anthro dragon. >_>

And as it is the rantage board... I'll say that: most of fans can't accept that their favourite games can end. They ALWAYS find something to rant about. -_-
Anyway. Maybe that Spyro didn't please Insomniacs anymore. Why would they continue a game if they don't have fun creating it? (and then I receive answers like "But they're working for US! I don't care about what they feel!")
Re: Insomniac
Post by Dixie on Nov 4th, 2005, 1:34pm

heck VU made more Spyro games then Insomniac
Quality, not qauntity. I don't care if they made 15 games more than Insomniac's 3, doesn't mean they'd be GOOD.
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Nov 5th, 2005, 12:44am

Face it I saw it and I have a feeling lots of you see it VU within the next 2-3 games will supass Insomiac and hey we may even say "Insomniac Had Spyro?"

The Karate part from what I saw is simply moves any Dragon could do

and some people dont get that Insomniac is being owned

((and to be quite honest I dont care if they have fun making it as long as I have fun playing it))
Re: Insomniac
Post by Ruby Krystal on Nov 5th, 2005, 02:31am

Insomniac: Enjoys to make the games, therefore, they aare the best games ever.
VU: Just want it to be over with, and rush the games. Therefore, they are crappy.


I'm sticking up for insomniac because of a few reasons:

I want to work there
They make the best games I've ever played...EVER.

Karate in a Spyro game just doesn't make sense AT ALL. Magic? Leave it to Bianca. Let me guess, there's no Elora in SSL?
Re: Insomniac
Post by Dark Faun on Nov 5th, 2005, 03:02am

Elora is not is SSL. Bianca and Hunter are here, though, along with their relatives. And Moneybags has four sons. XD And I think that Avalar and Cliff Town are mentioned.

And even if VU made better games than Insomniacs, they won't do a better Spyro. Martial arts were cool, back in the time where not EVERY SINGLE HERO had them. Now, half of heros in games are KARATEMASTEROMG.
Re: Insomniac
Post by TTEchidna on Nov 5th, 2005, 6:07pm

on Nov 5th, 2005, 12:44am, SolidDragon wrote:
Face it I saw it and I have a feeling lots of you see it VU within the next 2-3 games will supass Insomiac and hey we may even say "Insomniac Had Spyro?"


That would be the year when all of the OLD Spyro fans are gone. So long as they're around, people WILL know that Insomniac MADE Spyro.

Being that you're more for the NEW canon than the OLD one, I'm not surprised that you think it's better. I, personally, don't think so.


And DarkFaun's right. In every way. Including how SSL has Hunter, Bianca, and Phoneybags having fifty thousand relatives.

We're about this close to having Spyro have twelve playable cousins of every shade of the rainbow. And that, only that, will be the day that the whole kit and kaboodle dies for me. Never before, as I like Spyro.

At least before VU.
Re: Insomniac
Post by Ruby Krystal on Nov 6th, 2005, 03:59am

I'm going to blow up VU....If I could.

*Waves an "Insomniac rules!" flag*
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Nov 6th, 2005, 05:34am

Personally...I woudlnt mind the cousens thing

and I do like the origional games but AH'sT and now Shadow LEgacy made me realize VU is working hard at Spyro

VU Isnt going to dump Spyro after 3 games unlike SOME Companies

((You know I'm supprised they held R&C for 4 games that's a new record for them!))
Re: Insomniac
Post by Ruby Krystal on Nov 6th, 2005, 06:11am

Grrr. Insomniac were BRIBED by VU.

VU is NOT working hard with Spyro, they just dump soem random characters in, while Insomniac actually BOTHERS to make up the origins for the characters. (Even if they're spoofs)
Re: Insomniac
Post by Venom on Nov 7th, 2005, 04:21am

I noticed the pro-VUers are claiming that they haven't been flamed yet.
Don't worry, I won't flame you.

*pulls lever and the whole pro-VU party falls into a river of lava*

I'll do that, instead.
Hey! Everyone knows no video game is comlete without lava!

Calm down, calm down, I'm just kidding!

---------------------------------------

Seriously, though, Spyro, as a franchise, is dead and gone, to me. Spyro, as a character, endures... for now...

Yet all of Spyro canon is being "canonraped" by VU right now. I seriously don't care what anyone says, VU sucks proverbial *!(#%&&*#(@(!%^**!!

As I am such a strongly opinionated and un-swayable old bastard, there is little point in me being here, as any fair agument from the pro-VUists would 'fall on deaf ears'.

But first, a little more rant...

VU has successfully undone all respect I ever had for them, which had originally come from some good releases of theirs, such as Half-Life.

Then they (un)did Spyro, and had to kiss my ample VU-repecting arse good-bye.

So little Insomniac canon now remains - it's sickening. It's like some poor-quality fanfiction, except it's bloodywell canon.

CANON...

THIS CR*P...

By the heathen gods, what has Spyro come to?


Sorry, that's enough of my extremely well-heated air, for now, anyway.

But I far prefer Insomniac. The VU Spyros bring me to tears, literally - and I'm dead serious about that.
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Nov 7th, 2005, 05:40am

Well if theirs no way ta change your mind I wont waste eather of our times trying to do so

Your pro Insomniac and as of now I'm offically declaring myself pro VU and I see nothing wrong with the VU Cannons ((in fact I see none of the problems your describing in fact their adding more charas because...well they have to the Spyro world needs population))

but like I said before I lost respect to InQuiteriac although I am gaining it because with R&C their not quiting after game 3 like they did with Spyro ((Deadlocked is R&C game 4))
Re: Insomniac
Post by Ruby Krystal on Nov 7th, 2005, 09:52am

YOU HATE INSOMNIAC, YOU HATE ME. YOU'VE HEARD MY SMALL RANTS, AND DEAR GOD DON'T MAKE ME RASNT AGAIN.
Re: Insomniac
Post by TwilightTwinkles on Nov 7th, 2005, 7:38pm

I don't think SD hates Insomniac or you ...he did said he's gaining respect for Insomniac again in the post above.

I like Insomniac and all, but I also like VU and just like you're offended when people say they don't like Insomniac, I get quite offended when people post negative stuff about VU too, especially when it's hate comments about Ember, the EmberXSpyro pairing (she's still one of my favorite charries) or about the Spyro series being dead and gone (I find it really depressing when people say that. Honestly, I'd rather live in denial than accept that Spyro's gone...) but I don't think we should argue about it like this smiley We're all entitled to our opinions and fighting each other because them is a bit petty. That would be like DDO hating us just because we like Spyro.

I don't want to offend anyone with this post...if I did, sorry in advance...
Re: Insomniac
Post by Venom on Nov 8th, 2005, 12:09am

on Nov 7th, 2005, 09:52am, Ruby Krystal wrote:
YOU HATE INSOMNIAC, YOU HATE ME. YOU'VE HEARD MY SMALL RANTS, AND DEAR GOD DON'T MAKE ME RASNT AGAIN.

Please, Ruby. As strongly opinionated and evidence-lacking as I am, I still don't make such blunt, dangerously flame-ish, caps-lock statements.

Do please try to calm down and see the other point of view.

And Solid, I wouldn't say that Insomniac "gave up" on Spyro, they just wanted to try something new for the PS2.
And I do NOT appreciate your use of "InQuiterac" at all.

Apart from that, I must commend you on the manner in which you handle my great "opinionatedness", it's really mature of you (I know some people who would 'go off their tree' if I made such a post as my previous one!)

So, I agree to disagree.
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Nov 8th, 2005, 05:26am

on Nov 8th, 2005, 12:09am, Venom wrote:
Please, Ruby. As strongly opinionated and evidence-lacking as I am, I still don't make such blunt, dangerously flame-ish, caps-lock statements.

Do please try to calm down and see the other point of view.

And Solid, I wouldn't say that Insomniac "gave up" on Spyro, they just wanted to try something new for the PS2.
And I do NOT appreciate your use of "InQuiterac" at all.

Apart from that, I must commend you on the manner in which you handle my great "opinionatedness", it's really mature of you (I know some people who would 'go off their tree' if I made such a post as my previous one!)

So, I agree to disagree.


Yeah We can Agree to dissagree about this topic

and to think I used to blow up and rant about stuff like this ((ask Cappy [Captian Spyro] but not anymore so thanks for noticing))

And Twilight your calmness is verya pprechiated so thank you

and as for the 'InQuiteriac' comment I actually ment it as a joke grin but if it does offend ya I'll remove it form my sig and never bring it up again

Edit: Okay someone removed it for me that makes it all the easier
Re: Insomniac
Post by Venom on Nov 9th, 2005, 02:03am

Thanks, mate. wink
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Nov 9th, 2005, 05:16am

Not a problem wink
Re: Insomniac
Post by NTT on Nov 28th, 2005, 8:53pm

VU needs to be a registered sex offender... because they pretty much canon raped everything in Spyro. And god, I hate Spyro's new voice and look. They could've done better with a lot of things. They may be shoving resources into it, but there isn't the love that Insomniac had for it when they were in control. Insomniac built itself up on Spyro.

The humor is "ehh" at most. The same stuff I've been hearing since before I was born, hearing stuff from inside my mother's womb. Insomniac managed to scrounge up some darn funny stuff every game. I still giggle, and I've been playing spyro for -years-.

The graphics... I think another thing that made the first three good was that the graphics weren't top-notch and highly refined. You can get away with so much more physical humor with less than realistic graphics. Like the frogs in Sunny Villa that pumped their heads with air? I feel kind of stupid for loving that so much XD but you would have a hard time making it as funny with the graphics they have now. Not to mention Spyro doesn't look as cute as he did. Did his eyes just shrink? Even the bigger dragons look more wide-eyed and youthful than he does now (*coughAHTcough*).

And they booted characters, too. The most famous of the booted being the lovely Elora. And the character's personalities (well, at least a good majority of them* pulled a flying 180 on us. Moneybags apparently isn't the snobby money-grubber he was, Hunter is not as stupid (I liked him stupid better...), and a good lot of other characters are so different, it might just as well be an entirely different game. I also like the Stewart Copeland music better. I think they might've ditched -that- too, which is one of the things that really stuck to Spyro in my mind.

Where did all the portals go? I know the free-roaming in gargantuan worlds is fun, but Spyro was designed differently from the beginning. The portals were, oddly, more adventurous. One step could bring into a totally different magical realm with totally different residents and themes. Like a bunch of little worlds in one.And now it's like there isn't a point for gems. Infinite? That's no fun. There's little purpose to collecting them past buying what you need. I really loved Spyro's choices for getting stuff from Moneybags "Yes! Just please shut up!" from Spooky Swamp, land of haiku, is one of my favorites ^-^

VU is trying, but it changes so much it'd be just so much better off making a -new- franchise. Everything changes with developers (*cougheverygamecough*).
Re: Insomniac
Post by ratchet on Nov 30th, 2005, 12:48am

ok your right in some ways but being a big insomniac supporter you are talkin hogwash...
yes vu games made all the other spyro games stink but you cant blame insomniac...what if they continued making spyro with dumb ideas...personally i think spyro is better off with vu there for insomniac can make better games.
yes vu games of spyro suck but every company has to let stuff go...so they can get more money to make better games.

bye smiley
Re: Insomniac
Post by ratchet on Nov 30th, 2005, 12:54am

what happened therehuh
sniff cry i am an endangered species i guess cry sniff i have been a spyro fan for nearly 7 years...i am still sad that insomniac left spyro...we are an endangered species arn't we
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Dec 1st, 2005, 05:03am

dont worry I beleave were on the rise again
Re: Insomniac
Post by Venom on Dec 2nd, 2005, 8:18pm

Errm, I think he means that Insomniac-lovers are an endangerd species, not that we really are...
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Dec 3rd, 2005, 12:18am

I thought he ment Spyro fans in general are an endangered species

well I cant really say for Insomiac Spyro fans
Re: Insomniac
Post by ratchet on Dec 3rd, 2005, 12:42am

no...i was sayin that spyro fans that followed the games from number 1 were indangered species not insomniac fans...
Re: Insomniac
Post by Venom on Dec 3rd, 2005, 06:08am

By Insomniac fans, I mean those who prefer the Insomniac games ove the VU ones - most who have followed the games from the begining, along with many others, are of this alignment.
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Dec 3rd, 2005, 3:52pm

Well I guess I'm in the minority I followed since game one and right now I think I prefer the VU set ((if only they had Elora))
Re: Insomniac
Post by Nikkola on Dec 3rd, 2005, 9:37pm

I'm just sad because Insomniac did heck of a better job. It doesn't matter to me about the graphics though. Well, sometimes. But I think the game plots were more interesting. I mean what the heck, an evil _____ takes over the _____ and sucks all life out of _____. That story has been used too many times!

I don't know any other flims of Videogames like that but I know it's a common plot by common sense! I just someone to do something about it... Like Insomniac.
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Dec 5th, 2005, 05:21am

Well to me it isnt as much ab out story as it's abot gameplay and gameply wise the VU games are great ((except some touches here and there))
Re: Insomniac
Post by ratchet on Dec 9th, 2005, 5:43pm

stop that non sense VU stole spyro and just spat on his face...nothing good about VU there just predictable,copied and rushed angry
Re: Insomniac
Post by SolidDragon on Dec 9th, 2005, 7:47pm

on Dec 9th, 2005, 5:43pm, ratchet wrote:
stop that non sense VU stole spyro and just spat on his face...nothing good about VU there just predictable,copied and rushed angry


I beleave the greatness of A Heros tale and A Shadow's legacy prove ya wrong

Gameplay wise they rock

and they did away with the annoying having to collect all the gems

in fact if things keep up I bet VU will surpass Insomniac in 2 games ((probibly 1 but to be safe I say 2))
Re: Insomniac
Post by Venom on Dec 11th, 2005, 04:44am

on Dec 9th, 2005, 7:47pm, SolidDragon wrote:
I beleave the greatness of A Heros tale and A Shadow's legacy prove ya wrong

Gameplay wise they rock


*cough*
Those games pretty much suck. End of story. The gameplay is awful, the graphics are only "okay" and the canon's so screwed up you can't tell canonic left from right!
Re: Insomniac
Post by TTEchidna on Dec 11th, 2005, 5:41pm

Pretty much, I'd say that SSL was okay in terms of gameplay, but the end was totally anti-climactic. One thing the Spyro games need to keep up with the times is a storyline. This isn't just "let's kill things" anymore. This is the 21st century. Even the cruddiest games have some plot.


Too bad that's all SSL and AHT had. Some.
Re: Insomniac
Post by ratchet on Dec 16th, 2005, 12:29am

i just played enter the dragonfly...like always it was bad...
i noticed that VU stole insomniac's music i mean it has some of the same tunes and instraments...
as i said it would be really good if insomniac got the dragon back but they needed to make more and different games...can you immagine what disrupter fans felt?
Re: Insomniac
Post by ratchet on Dec 16th, 2005, 12:32am

on Dec 9th, 2005, 7:47pm, SolidDragon wrote:
I beleave the greatness of A Heros tale and A Shadow's legacy prove ya wrong

Gameplay wise they rock

and they did away with the annoying having to collect all the gems

in fact if things keep up I bet VU will surpass Insomniac in 2 games ((probibly 1 but to be safe I say 2))

yes it was a bit annoying collecting the gems but the way(unlimited gems)copied ratchet and clank there you have it copying insomniac agagagain
Re: Insomniac
Post by TwilightTwinkles on Dec 16th, 2005, 06:27am

on Dec 16th, 2005, 12:32am, ratchet wrote:
yes it was a bit annoying collecting the gems but the way(unlimited gems)copied ratchet and clank there you have it copying insomniac agagagain


I don't know but it would be pretty hard for any company not to copy Insomniac when working on a Spyro game, since Insomniac were the original creators and all...
Re: Insomniac
Post by Ruby Krystal on Dec 16th, 2005, 11:36am

on Dec 16th, 2005, 12:29am, ratchet wrote:
i just played enter the dragonfly...like always it was bad...
i noticed that VU stole insomniac's music i mean it has some of the same tunes and instraments...
as i said it would be really good if insomniac got the dragon back but they needed to make more and different games...can you immagine what disrupter fans felt?


Actually, Stewart copeland did the music for ETD AND the orginal Spyro trilogy.
Re: Insomniac
Post by ratchet on Dec 16th, 2005, 3:36pm

really...then i take back what i said...you know more about spyro then spyro knows himself shocked
Re: Insomniac
Post by dooda on Jan 1st, 2006, 5:19pm

Why are we blaming VU again? How many Spyro games did they actually make?
Re: Insomniac
Post by Venom on Jan 2nd, 2006, 7:23pm

That's it, I'm making a bloody announcement. See the ANNOUNCEMENT board for your answer. This question has been asked TOO MANY TIMES!
Re: Insomniac
Post by ratchet on Jan 3rd, 2006, 3:50pm

on Dec 16th, 2005, 11:36am, Ruby Krystal wrote:
Actually, Stewart copeland did the music for ETD AND the orginal Spyro trilogy.

Hang on, check this site out
i am not saying i am right, just confused shocked
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyro:_A_Hero's_Tail
copy it or whatever if it comes up with the wrong thing
Re: Insomniac
Post by dragonoffate on Jan 3rd, 2006, 5:05pm

Heh I prefer Insomniac ones personally, but all the villains died the same way. Gnasty Gnorc: fell into pit of lava, Ripto: flamed down by Spyro into a pit of lava., Sorceress: Feel into the lava first time and second time fell into that blueish lava.
Re: Insomniac
Post by ratchet on Jan 3rd, 2006, 5:21pm

your right, but gnasty gnorc didn't fall into lava, but spyro killed him with flam in a stage with lava.
Re: Insomniac
Post by PKMNTrainerMay on Aug 8th, 2011, 12:19pm

I agree with what everyone has said about UYA. It was a good game, but it had its flaws.
I hate Sasha. >__<